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PostMay 18, 2007#21

apolonia wrote: As far as the leaving moves goes, this is a tricky one for me. I hate it when someone is gone for so long and doesn't check in at all. But I personally never leave moves, and I go missing for about 10 hours when I work and about 6 when I sleep. Maybe people get annoyed waiting for me? I think that I am a frequent checker though, I check first thing when I get up, right when I get home, every couple hours on my day off. I feel like a hypocrite saying all this, but sometimes I feel like we wait for the same people a lot, and not because of the time difference. I've been tempted to like to start an obsessive checker swap. :lol: Als are sometimes too constrictive for me but sometimes the 12 hours rule is too much.
I've found that a good compromise on that (for me) is to leave moves, but tell the other players not to use them if there's been a new reveal since I've last checked in.

I then check in as often as I can (at least every 12 hours), and keep my moves up to date, but I also know that someone won't make a move for me when a book I wanted more was revealed after I left.

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Beyond Obsessed

PostMay 18, 2007#22

PepperVL wrote:
apolonia wrote: As far as the leaving moves goes, this is a tricky one for me. I hate it when someone is gone for so long and doesn't check in at all. But I personally never leave moves, and I go missing for about 10 hours when I work and about 6 when I sleep. Maybe people get annoyed waiting for me?  I think that I am a frequent checker though, I check first thing when I get up, right when I get home, every couple hours on my day off.  I feel like a hypocrite saying all this, but sometimes I feel like we wait for the same people a lot, and not because of the time difference. I've been tempted to like to start an obsessive checker swap.  :lol: Als are sometimes too constrictive for me but sometimes the 12 hours rule is too much.
I've found that a good compromise on that (for me) is to leave moves, but tell the other players not to use them if there's been a new reveal since I've last checked in.

I then check in as often as I can (at least every 12 hours), and keep my moves up to date, but I also know that someone won't make a move for me when a book I wanted more was revealed after I left.
I like to play that way too. If there's a couple of wishlist books still in play, I'll leave very specific moves regarding them, such as, okay to steal on 3 or 5, but not on 4. But if not, I too like to see any new reveals that may have come up while I've been away, so like Pepper said, I'll either mention that before I go to bed or am gonna be away for awhile, or even say something like that in my moves. If my first choice move isn't possible, I've no problem saying "wait 4 me" for my 2nd choice.

Ap, I never feel we've had to wait for you too long even when you're at work so I wouldn't worry too much. Though if it's a wishlist book you're after, and you know what you'd do if you were there, it can't hurt to leave a move and be specific such as which moves you'd want to steal it on.


Remember, this thread is mostly for a lot of the newcomers we have coming on board, so though a few of us veterans have our own way of doing things, I'm trying to instill some good habits in the newbies by making this thread!

PostMay 22, 2007#23

How to Prepare Your Reveal

***Be sure to refer to the 05-JAN-2009 UPDATE at the very bottom of this post as well.***

The easiest method is to compose and send this using the Private Messaging facilities of the forum so that you can use the forum's bold, italics, image tags, etc.

The example below is a suggested format you might like to follow. Feel free to make it your own, include your own review, whatever you'd like...

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[img]http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0312329385.01.MZZZZZZZ.jpg[/img]

[b][size=7][font=Arial][i][url=http://bookcrossing.com/journal/4730868]Owls Well That Ends Well[/url][/i] by Donna Andrews[/font][/size][/b]

[i]This is the 6th book in Donna Andrews's hilarious Meg Lanslow Mystery series.[/i]

It's not required to read these books in the order they were published.  In a few cases, it might give you some additional background about some of the main characters and their personalities, but it certainly doesn't affect the story negatively by not doing so.  I started with the fourth book myself, and then went back and found the earlier ones.

[b]Book Description[/b]
Ever since [i]Murder with Peacocks[/i] won the Malice Domestic Contest (not to mention the Agatha and Anthony awards for best first novel), Donna Andrews has kept readers laughing.  As [i]Publishers Weekly[/i] says of [i]Crouching Buzzard, Leaping Loon[/i], "There's a smile on every page and at least one chuckle per chapter."

But the secret of Andrews's humor isn't sharp gags and one-liners.  From Meg Langslow and her boyfriend, Michael, to the minor characters who cross the stage and disappear, Andrews writes about real people, and invites the reader to join in the fun.

In [i]Owls Well That Ends Well[/i], Meg and Michael have bought a very elderly house from the estate of the uncrowned Queen of the Packrats, a woman who bought everything and kept it all.  When the house became overcrowded, she moved the overflow into the barn.  When the barn was crammed, she began filling the property's sheds.  When she died, her "holdings" left the various grandnieces and grandnephews with decades of junk.  They avoid the job of cleaning it up by selling the place "as is" to Meg and Michael, sticking them with the lot.  Their solution: a yard sale.

... (clipped for brevity)
**IMPORTANT: When sending your reveal to someone via PM, you need to enclose the entire text of your reveal within a set of [ code] [ /code] tags* (remove the extra space after the opening bracket) so all the links, images, and formatting remains intact. When done properly, it'll arrive in the recipient's mailbox within a code block as above.

If using a physical book, please include the book's BookCrossing URL somewhere in your reveal. (It can be a link from your title or an image, or just posted as is within the description.)


Just like when you're composing a forum message, you can view your PM before sending it. It's usually a good idea to send it to at least one other person who's in a different time zone from you, possibly even overseas, so that someone might be available to give your reveal if you're sleeping or unavailable for a long period of time.


To use an image in your reveal post, the easiest place to get the correct image UR from is the BookCrossing journal page and using the Firefox browser.

From Firefox: From the BookCrossing journal page for your book, right click on the image and choose Copy Image Location from the right-click context menu. This is the URL you'll insert between the opening and closing IMG tags in the above example.

From Internet Explorer: It's not quite as easy since there's not a "Copy Image Location" context menu entry in IE. Instead, you still right click on the image, and choose Properties from the context menu. Next to Address (URL), you'll see an http address. Drag your mouse over that entire address to highlight it, making sure to scroll down all the way so that you get it all. NOTE: it should end in .jpg. (You can also triple-click on that field and it should select the entire thing.)

While the text in that field is highlighted, press Ctrl-C (on a PC) to copy it to your clipboard. (Or right click and choose Copy. If you do it this way, make sure you don't left click first or all the highlighted text will become unselected.)



***UPDATE 05-JAN-2009*** It appears that with the launch of the new forum, it's no longer possible to get at the actual code behind a PM someone sends you. Because of this, it's difficult to post someone's swap reveal while keeping all the links, images, and formatting intact. To get around this, you should enclose the entire text of your reveal within a set of [ code] [ /code] tags* (without the extra space after the opening bracket). Your PM will then come through looking exactly like my example above, within a box with the word Code at the top.

*[ nocode] [ /nocode] will work as well. See the Full BBCode List for details on the difference between the two.

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Thoroughly Obsessed

PostNov 08, 2007#24

AlterEgoZoe wrote: I have one question. If there's a swap that I don't want to participate in (ie, I wouldn't be interested in the particular genre of books in play), but if I'd want to "donate" a book to the swap (and not receive one in return) would that be ok, and how would I go about it (or just donate to a VBB)?
I don't see how that would easily work for a swap...but generous idea! I think I would stick to donating to VBBs where the number of books/players isn't as exact as swaps.

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Absolutely Obsessed

PostNov 14, 2007#25

I just want to say that I enjoy the swaps, the chatter etc. and most of the time there isn't any one particular book I'm dying for. I just have fun. If I end up with a book I've already read or don't particularly care for, I check to see if anyone has it on her wishlist and ask the person to send it to them - unless that other person lives overseas. Sometimes I just ask for a postcard instead of the book.
And if I really wanted a book and somebody stole it, well, there's always the library. :D
I do feel badly if I've offered a dud, but then I do as most of you do - I ask them to check out my shelf and pick something else. And I'm not offended if someone doesn't want anything. That way I'm saving postage.

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Beyond Obsessed

PostDec 11, 2008#26

How to leave Swap Moves in your Signature (updated)
As originally posted by Elsi

With all the skins that are available, you can no longer be sure that using a white font will keep your future moves hidden. There are two techniques that can be used in your signature.

1. Use the spoiler tag

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Here are my moves [spoiler]1. Steal the book Marlene is holding, 2. Reveal Pepper[/spoiler]
... which looks like this:

Here are my moves
[+] Spoiler
1. Steal the book Marlene is holding, 2. Reveal Pepper
2. Set the background and font color to the same color.

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Here are my moves [bgcolor=white][color=white]1. Steal the book Marlene is holding, 2. Reveal Pepper[/color][/bgcolor]
... which looks like this:

Here are my moves 1. Steal the book Marlene is holding, 2. Reveal Pepper

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Exceedingly Obsessed

PostMar 29, 2009#27

Could you please add "ALS" into the swap terminology. (I don't think they're discussed here, but it's hard to tell, because when I search I get all the "also"s.)

I'd ALSo (*giggle*) like to know - how long does one usually wind up taking?

PostOct 13, 2009#28

CheriePie wrote:[*] PMing or otherwise messaging other players to let them know it's their turn is more a courtesy as opposed to a requirement. The players are expected to keep track of the game and know where things stand.
There's been a bit of discussion on this in the (currently ongoing) Raiding Bookshelves Swap. Apparently, it got came up in some earlier swap, and *those* players agreed that it's irritating to get PMs.

So it seems like some players feel that PMs are a courtesy, and others find them to be a pain in the neck. And of course as the need for this explicit rule quoted above shows, some players assume they're a requirement

I think it would be nice if each swap host made an explicit ruling about whether PMs are encouraged, discouraged, or what. If that could be stated in the swap rules for each specific swap it would eliminate misunderstandings and accidental feather-ruffling. :kiss:

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Absolutely Obsessed

PostOct 13, 2009#29

Potok-fan wrote:I think it would be nice if each swap host made an explicit ruling about whether PMs are encouraged, discouraged, or what. If that could be stated in the swap rules for each specific swap it would eliminate misunderstandings and accidental feather-ruffling. :kiss:
I know I wouldn't be so keen to play in the swap where I'd be obliged to send PMs/cleaning inbox from PMs for each time I was without book.
As Cherie said "The players are expected to keep track of the game" and 12h should be enough for at least one check. Voila!
(e-mailing is from my point of view more logical then PMs cause you have to log onto the site to read PM and since you're already here do check the game! However I'm strongly opposing to adding new rule (sending e-mail) to the game)

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Beyond Obsessed

PostJan 10, 2013#30

Potok-fan wrote:Could you please add "ALS" into the swap terminology. (I don't think they're discussed here, but it's hard to tell, because when I search I get all the "also"s.)

I'd ALSo (*giggle*) like to know - how long does one usually wind up taking?
Done. :) http://bookobsessed.com/topic/6532399/1/?x=0#post125012

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