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SWAPPING 101 (updated 10-Jan-2013)

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Beyond Obsessed

PostApr 06, 2007#1

Swapping 101 - Table of Contents

• How to prepare your reveal (updated 05-Jan-2009)

• How to leave moves in your signature (updated) · (old way)

• Swap Terminology & Etiquette


Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)

Q: What exactly is a cozy mystery?

A: This website seems to define a cozy mystery best: Definition of a Cozy Mystery


Shaunie's Swap Site no longer active

Includes a wealth of information including a FAQ, information about the various bookboxes, and more.

The Swap Results themselves are no longer being published on Shaunie's Swap Site and instead can be found at the:

BookObsessed Owed Books Database

More information on the database, including registering for you own account and updating your own information can be found in the Official Announcement and FAQ (from the Site News & Announcements forum).


Swap Scheduling is taking place in this thread or you can just add your Swap to the site calendar and it'll get posted into that list.

PostApr 06, 2007#2

TERMINOLOGY
Reveal: When used as a noun, as in your reveal, it refers to the book that you will be playing with in this swap, which is kept secret until you are asked to reveal (v.) it. In the latter form, when used as a verb, you are simply being asked to show your book, or to "reveal your reveal".

ALS: Almost Live Swap. All users who are playing are in the swap thread at the same time, and turn time is max 5-10 minutes instead of 12 hours. The length of the swap itself is dependent on the number of participants but I've played in some that lasted only a half hour while others lasted 4+ hours. Generally it's somewhere between those two extremes.
(I haven't played an ALS in a very long time so please correct me if this is wrong.)


SWAP ETIQUETTE
  • Moderators, please verify that signed-up players aren't on either the 6 month past due list or the general naughty list!!
  • All players are expected to check in at least every 12 hours, though most do so much more often than that.
  • At the start of the swap, it's generally good form, even required by some swap admins, to check in. This simply acknowledges that you're aware the swap is starting and you're ready to play. Otherwise, you may have signed up
    weeks ago and forgotten completely about it by the time the swap is ready to start.
  • PMing or otherwise messaging other players to let them know it's their turn is more a courtesy as opposed to a requirement. The players are expected to keep track of the game and know where things stand.
  • Before the start of the game, please send your reveal information (see this post) to at least two other players, preferably in different time zones are at least here at different hours, so you've got coverage around the clock.

    When you receive someone else's reveal information, it's considered bad form to look at the reveal before it's needed. Once you see that you have the email or PM, don't open it until you need to reveal the person in the swap.
  • If you plan to be away from the computer for more than a few hours at a time, please post a message in the PLAY thread letting the other players know and when you expect to return. Also, please leave moves with other players or in your signature (see this post) and let us know at what point you'd like us to wait for you and at what point it's okay to use your moves.

    Remember, we won't wait more than the time indicated in the swap (usually 12 hours). (Ex. Please wait for me if I'll be back within x hours, otherwise go ahead and use my moves. or Please wait for me if it's after (time), otherwise use my moves.)

    If someone leaves moves in their signature, you shouldn't look at them unless they're needed to move the game forward. While it's always tempting to peek, it makes the swap less fun for everyone.
Additional Game Play Notes
  • To make it easier to review the books revealed thus far, without having to page through the numerous pages in the PLAY thread, we keep a separate REVEALED BOOKS THREAD (except for Almost Live Swaps) which should also be accessible from a link in the Update.
  • When there is only one reveal left in the game, the player to request that reveal effectively ends the game.
  • Someone asked me to clarify what is and isn't okay to discuss outside of the swap with relation to the swap itself and reveals not yet shown. Though I believe most members can simply use common sense, I'll attempt to lay this down anyway to satisfy some of the more confused members.

    1. It is perfectly acceptable to discuss books and other swap-related stuff, even the swap itself, outside of the forum.
    2. It is not kosher to tell someone else who's playing in the same swap what your reveal is.
    3. In the same vein, it is not cool to look at someone else's reveal that they've PM'ed you before it's actually requested in the swap.
    4. It is okay to give hints about your reveal, particularly if they're not too specific, don't give it away completely, and will get others excited about your reveal.

    Here's a real life example: I've been doing Secret Santa Yankee Swaps with my RL friends for 20+ years now so those who've done these in the past can apply the same discretion here. After I walk in with my gift and hide it under the tree, one of the gals might turn to me and say, "So what'd ya bring for the swap?" Of course, I don't want to tell them directly so I might say something like, "Well... I didn't see one in your kitchen last time I was over." That kind of answer gives them just enough to chew on and get excited over, without really telling them anything at all! Since perhaps they already have one and don't keep it out on the counter.

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Exceedingly Obsessed

PostApr 07, 2007#3

Another thing that I think may not be obvious --

What to do (and not do) when you receive a reveal/etiquette regarding moves in people's signatures:

1) When someone sends a reveal to you, it's considered bad form to look at the reveal before it's needed. Once you see that you have the email or PM, don't open it until you need to reveal the person in the swap.

2) If someone leaves moves in a signature, you shouldn't look at them unless they're needed to move the game forward. While it's always tempting to peek, it makes the swap less fun for everyone.

12K9
Beyond Obsessed

PostApr 07, 2007#4

msjoanna wrote: Another thing that I think may not be obvious --

What to do (and not do) when you receive a reveal/etiquette regarding moves in people's signatures:

1) When someone sends a reveal to you, it's considered bad form to look at the reveal before it's needed. Once you see that you have the email or PM, don't open it until you need to reveal the person in the swap.

2) If someone leaves moves in a signature, you shouldn't look at them unless they're needed to move the game forward. While it's always tempting to peek, it makes the swap less fun for everyone.
:goodjob: :thumbsup: definitely good pointers. will go right into the "Additional Game Play Notes". :)

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Exceedingly Obsessed

PostApr 07, 2007#5

When checking in, add a message so that everyone knows you have been here. Otherwise it looks as if you :
- are lost
- have completely forgotten about the swap
- something worse and we may all worry about you.

If you can't think of anything witty to say just a 'Hi, checking in' or a smilie :waves: will do.

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Beyond Obsessed

PostApr 07, 2007#6

CheriePie wrote: If you plan to be away from the computer for more than a few hours at a time, please post a message in the PLAY thread letting the other players know and when you expect to return. If possible, leave moves with another player or in your signature (link to how to make your moves invisible in your signature).
I'm not sure how I feel about the phrasing of this. It kinda makes it feel to me like you need to leave a move. And really, unless you're going to be gone for a really long time (as in more than 12 hours after your turn comes up), you don't.

I know that it's polite to leave moves so that the game can keep going, but I also know that there are people who feel very strongly about leaving moves. Sometimes, you only get to make one move in a swap, and it's really disappointing if you only get one move and someone else makes it for you... especially if you come back within the time frame that would have let you make it yourself.

Maybe change it to something like:

If you plan to be away from the computer for more than a few hours at a time, please post a message in the PLAY thread letting the other players know and when you expect to return. Also, please leave moves with other players or in your signature (link) and let us know at what point you'd like us to wait for you and at what point it's okay to use your moves. Remember, we won't wait more than the time indicated in the swap (usually 12 hours). (Ex. Please wait for me if I'll be back within x hours, otherwise go ahead and use my moves. or Please wait for me if it's after (time), otherwise use my moves.)


That way people won't feel like they HAVE to let others move for them no matter how long they'll be gone. These are (usually) 12 hour swaps, and if I want to say wait 12 hours for me so I can make my own move, that is okay.

PostApr 07, 2007#7

AlterEgoZoe wrote: What about duplicates? As in like, say Shaunie revealed It by Stephen King, then say my reveal was the same book. Do I change my book to something else?
Well... I've played in/watched a couple of swaps where a book was revealed twice... and I think it was stolen out of the game twice in one of those swaps.

I think that really depends on how popular it seems to be. If it's just sitting there, you might want to consider changing it, but if it's being stolen left and right, go ahead and reveal it by all means.

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Exceptionally Obsessed

PostApr 07, 2007#8

How about explaining if one should offer a "browse my bookshelf to pick somehting else" if your reveal wasn't stolen even once? Are we obliged to offer? And is it rude to ask, I don't want the book you offer but I find something else on your shelf? Or we shouldn't unless offered?

V. important etiquette questions in my opinion.

I don't remember if we address the issue whether TBR is okay or if there is a time period for books to be sent out. I think I've seen the answers elsewhere but don't know if it has been included.

And for people leaving moves, as white is not an available color choice and has to be done manually, maybe an explanation will help first-timers.

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Exceptionally Obsessed

PostApr 07, 2007#9

This is not a requirement of a swap, but if I reveal a book that by the end of the swap has not been stolen, I give the person with my reveal a chance to have anything else from my bookshelf. That way they get something they want (and potentially even a wishlist book) in return for having to get stuck with a dud I chose.

It's not a requirement, but it is considereate :)

10K190
Beyond Obsessed

PostApr 07, 2007#10

HoserLauren wrote:
azuki wrote: How about explaining if one should offer a "browse my bookshelf to pick somehting else" if your reveal wasn't stolen even once?  Are we obliged to offer? And is it rude to ask, I don't want the book you offer but I find something else on your shelf? Or we shouldn't unless offered?

V. important etiquette questions in my opinion.

I don't remember if we address the issue whether TBR is okay or if there is a time period for books to be sent out.  I think I've seen the answers elsewhere but don't know if it has been included.
:lol: I just answered most of those.

I wouldn't ever ask for another book. At the same time, I've never been asked because I always offer a different one first :)

And TBRs are perfectly ok!
I have asked... because there have been several times that I've gotten stuck with books that I have absolutely no interest in at all.

Sometimes I get an offer before I get around to asking, sometimes I don't. Since I'd rather you not send me a book at all then send me a book I'm not going to read, I try to ask within a day or so of the swap end.

I also always (try to) make it clear in my request that by no means is it a requirement for them to send me a different book.

I usually say something like:

Hi. I ended up with X book in Y swap. While I'm sure it's a great book, it's not something that I have any interest in. (I know it's a great book - I've already read it!) I was hoping you'd be willing to send me a different book from your shelf.

I'm interested in:

A
B
C

(Only one, of course! Whichever is easiest for you!)

If for whatever reason you can't send on one of those books, that's okay too. Just don't worry about sending me anything. I'd hate for you to pay postage on something I won't read.


I really don't think anyone is going to be upset at a request for a different book if it's politely worded and it isn't assuming/demanding that they will be able to.

Maybe we could say something like:

If the book you revealed wasn't stolen, it's polite (but not a requirement) to offer the person holding it a replacement from your shelf. If you end up with a book you don't want, it is acceptable to send a politely worded request asking for a replacement from the offerer's shelf, but keep in mind that they don't have to give you one.

Or something like that... :shrug:

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